Re: comment wrt. ESR's talk in Vienna

Autor: Eric S. Raymond (
Datum: Sam Jul 13 2002 - 21:16:36 CEST

Franz Schaefer <>:
> i do not see how it is any useful to talk things like moral or solidarity
> with people who are proud to own guns...

That's an ignorant and bigoted remark. If you wish to correct your
ignorance, see for a
discussion of the moral philosophy of personal weapons.

> now if you are clever you might argue: when people act for other people then
> it is their selfish affection for them... to maximize the feeling of one
> self to see one self as being good judgment of ones one moral... ok now
> then you can stick the label "selfish" on everything.. but then this is not
> what is commonly understood with the term "selfish"...

Good. You do understand my position, then. That is exactly how I experience
"altruistic" behavior in myself and analyze it in others.

Yes, people commonly equate selfishness with its most negative, short-term, and
stupid manifestations. This is an error that prevents people from
understanding themselves. I see no reason I should participate in it.

		Eric S. Raymond
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